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the infrastructural change that would need to happen in order to make it appealing to anyone in or outside of brockton is unappealing on so many levels
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They want to back out due to the Taunton Casino. Watched on the live stream and Crosby said "Crosby rated MG&E application as 'Insufficient' for lack of plans to connect physical facility to the surrounding community." They were hammered on every point with a couple exceptions. It was almost identical to why Carney didn't get the Slots license.
At this point I hope Carney cleans it up and puts something in there that creates revenue. I don't care if it's a Walmart. Though I don't believe Walmart is necessarily interested. They're closing brick and mortar stores. Hey there's always a Sports Complex that can be built out of pipe dreams.
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johnboy00 wrote: Imagine a renovated statehouse building with 100 years of fair photos throughout the interior. Connected to this would be a Brockton history museum focusing on The shoe industry,boxing, and Edison. That could compete with New Bedford and prove to be a draw far beyond the gambling crowd.
It seems like if you wave a few bucks in front of anybody in this city, they run for their pens and ask where to sign with no thought whatsoever, about how a Ho HUM proposal can be made Outstanding.
My post from last June. It could have made a difference.
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The link is to the summary of the meeting, it's lengthy but easy to read.
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What about the rest of the year?
That land goes to waste all year long except for once a year with a Fair
that has turned to dust.
Never fear, Brockton will will be robust with more of what it's good at...
Guess what that is? An even larger drug program than ever.
If we all sang the same note in the choir, We'd never have harmony
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Carney for being too cheap, Carpenter, for not standing up to carney and negotiating a good deal ( he did not even include an inflation clause) and the gaming board for opening any bidding for a SS license before they were absolutely sure that there would not be an Indian casino.
BTW, John Keller on WBZ really ripped into the gaming board today in support of Brockton.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/04/29/keller-large-gaming-commissions-bad-decision-hurts-brockton/
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We're labeled as the poorest city, yet rich in drug addiction facilities.
And we wonder why we aren't progressing?
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Capt wrote: The main issue should be what the Casino will bring to Brockton, not the design. They're not spending that kind of money on something ugly. Picky, picky.
I never see people getting upset or holding meetings about adding more drug centers, etc., which to me is very destructive to our city. It adds absolutely nothing to our betterment.
Here we have one of the best things that could ever come our way and were all acting like professional know it all's.
Capt. There is a lot more to "design" than what it looks like. It's also about how it's oriented, how it interacts with the roads, neighbors, etc. You can make the prettiest building ever, and have it FAIL by not being cohesive within the community.
I harp on it being built up to the streets so that it interacts with the existing neighborhood. I want it to benefit the existing businesses, not detract from them.
It also shouldn't be confused with a New school building as mayor carpenter indicated it resembled. It should look like what it is, a resort casino. A stand out destination should, oh I don't know, stand out.
Right now the vote is for a casino or no casino. If yes, and we are awarded the license, we should jot settle for subpar design. Its going to be there either adding the the area or detracting for a long time. 10 mil a year is great, but not so great if it kills the area for the foreseeable future.
Same thing with traffic improvement. No giving in to hysteria and making Belmont more of a dangerous highway than it already is. It doesn't need to be wider, or separated, it just needs calming, better flow thru, and safety upgrades. All are pretty much one and the same.
SeamusMcFly wrote: Again, it's not about whether the building is ugly or not. It's about the overall design of the site, and how it relates to its surroundings. You can have an ugly ass building be a success, or a beautiful work of art structure fail based on how you layout the site.
As it stands, I have only seen the site plan at the meeting last Thursday, and it sucked. Hard. I can walk to the site pretty easy from my home, and would like to. I shouldn't have to wade through acres of parking before getting to the building. I should be able to walk right in off the sidewalk. They can still have a covered porte cochere for drop offs and valet, but that doesn't take much space. All other vehicular traffic should be directed out of site, out of mind real fast. Restaurants should be accessible from both street and internally. This shouldn't be built as a mall. That's the casino way, but it doesn't have to be, and we don't have to allow it to be. Someone just might want food or a couple drinks. Walk in walk out. Nothing wrong with that. Many will want to explore a whole heap of options. Easy enough to do.
The big setback setup, creates a vacuum. Where everything gets sucked into the resort complex and nothing outside of that vacuum benefits. It's not part of the city, but another drive thru. You just stay at this particular drive thru for longer.
Build up to the street, and see other developers follow suit and start building on the other hundreds of acres of buildable land along Belmont. So much of that parking we have now is so unnecessary. It actually detracts from business as opposed to helping it. Big setback businesses become destinations only, and not quick stop ins. You have so much traffic going by them, but no one stops on a whim for a store that is 300 feet away.7-11 is really the only thing in the area that makes itself available in this way. The rest are drive thru fast food chains, drive thru gas stations, and then an ever growing sea of parking lots.
CVS killed a prime island by displacing multiple businesses, and then surrounding itself in parking lots that are not the easiest to enter on a whim. What could have been a prime entrance statement development into our downtown area, became another suburban quick hitter, car oriented, piece of garbage. And it brought nothing new to the area. We already had a CVS down the street, and everything available in CVS is pretty much available at the supermarkets right next door.
Our city however is so starved for any business that they just welcome any of that crap in with open arms although it does very little to actually better the city. This proposed complex could do a lot to better the city, but if done wrong, we could be stuck with a vacuum for a very long time. Once its in place, it's hard to make the fixes after the fact. Hell maybe, those two big parking lots out front are place holder for future high rise condos that would frame the entrance, but I highly doubt it, and if they were, people would scream bloody murder anyways.
Not to pat myself on the back too much, but.... saw it coming a mile away. The state board basically says the same things I said last year.
I think my facebook posts to the developer were very similar, but also knew they would fall on deaf ears.
Crap designs don't deserve to get built, particularly when they are so self serving and not integrating into the community.
Major blown opportunity.
Next up.... we blow it big time with the downtown redevelopment.
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www.brockton.ma.us/docs/default-source/p...lex-rfp.pdf?sfvrsn=0
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And I always say I live in the good part on the Avon line. Sounds better and makes me feel better too.oldskool wrote: whenever i tell people where i'm from, and i get 'the face'.... i reply, "it's okay, you're right"
If we all sang the same note in the choir, We'd never have harmony
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Rest in peace
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